Comments on: Have we really found the Higgs? http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/ thoughts of a selective subjectivist Sat, 18 May 2013 01:35:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: kryptolance http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6370 Wed, 25 Jul 2012 10:48:40 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6370 Reblogged this on kryptomusing.

]]> By: quantummoxie http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6237 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 01:46:59 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6237 I went back and delved into the details a bit more and you are correct. Apparently this is an oft-misunderstood point. Thanks for the correction!

]]> By: rrtucci http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6233 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 12:59:04 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6233 I believe they can be incorporated phenomenologically into the SM. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontecorvo–Maki–Nakagawa–Sakata_matrix). The SM does not explain them, but is not contradicted by them

]]> By: quantummoxie http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6224 Sun, 08 Jul 2012 00:39:39 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6224 Not that I am aware. In my understanding of the Standard Model, neutrino masses are not allowed.

]]> By: rrtucci http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6134 Thu, 05 Jul 2012 04:34:24 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6134 “Thus, the observation of neutrino oscillations appears to be fairly convincing evidence that neutrinos have mass which directly contradicts the SM.”
I believe the SM allows you to add neutrino masses. It is not contradicted by them

]]> By: Neil Bates http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26-2/#comment-6124 Thu, 05 Jul 2012 00:58:01 +0000 http://quantummoxie.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/have-we-really-found-the-higgs-26/#comment-6124 Good questions to raise, Ian. In any case this is still a great day for physics! Detective “Higgsy Callahan”, AKA “Dirty Higgsy” (readers, remember the Clint Eastwood character of similar name?), has been on the trail of this perpicle for years and had a few things to say about the search:

Making sure the perpicles couldn’t get away:

Higgsy: We’re not just going to let you walk out of here.
Particles: Who’s “we”, sucker?
Higgsy: ATLAS, CMS and me.

As the trail got warmer, he thought it was chancy:

“I know what you’re thinking: “Did we find five sigma, or only four?” Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I’ve kinda lost track myself. But being this is the LHC, the most powerful collider in the world, and would blow our mind clean off, you’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?” Well do ya, punk?”

And as he closed in for the “arrest”, Dirty Higgsy said:

“Go ahead, make my day!”

Well, the Higgs did – today is the day! Congratulations to all the theorists, workers; and especially to you, Dr. Peter Higgs!

*However, things may indeed be even more interesting, and I am one of those hoping this isn’t the fully expected standard Higgs. I want things to stay enigmatic longer. (Note, our not really understanding dark matter is IMHO a much bigger deal. And what does the recent discovery of that “Majorana particle” mean?) Ahh, keep feeling lucky, perps (and Stephen Hawking …)

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